Having a discussion and can someone tell me where exactly is "we are all SINNERS saved by grace" in the bible? I have found no witness of this in the word of GOD. But I did find in Ephesians 2:8 'For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God' and Romans 3:23 'for all *have* sinned and fall short of the glory of God,' HAVE is a word used for past tense not future tense. Furthermore falling short does not necessarily mean you sinned. Paul continue to remind the believer that they had to put off the old nature and put on the NEW NATURE, because they were so use to operating from the realm of a sinner.
In others words: they were trying to live in China with American customs. We have been born again and we can no longer live after the ways of that which we have been taught but that which the word of GOD teaches. That is why it is so vitale to get in the word because it is critical to renew that mind to learn what manner of man we ought to be. The bible calls this 'renewing of their mind'. This will equip the believer to begin to operate from a new kingdom, a new realm, a new mindset after the mind of CHRIST.
When we received Jesus Christ as LORD a transformation"THE NEW BIRTH/Spiritual Birth" took place in our soulish realm (will, emotions, intellect), yes we were all born of a woman, but we no longer operate from that realm anymore because we have a new authority that rules our life. That is why Jesus said, who is your mother, sister, brother? Those that operate from kingdom of heaven (spirit) and not the kingdom of earth (flesh).
Furthermore, if we are all sinners then what did JESUS come for?
If we are to remain the same in a nature that He came to save us from. A sinner operates from the flesh, a saint operates from the spirit.... and neither can a sinner inherit the kingdom of heaven. << 1 Corinthians 6:9 >> I will be recording a video in more details cause I believe this is going to change a people and set many free. Whom the Son makes free is free INDEED! [Selah]
Opening for discussion but please govern yourself accordingly!
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